Flying The Analogue Flag

Quotes I find from Audio mags...

What the Trade says about analogue | What The Users say about Analogue

 

 

Simon Heyworth from Super Audio Mastering - a mastering suite in Devon said this in the Pro Audio mag:
Last week I had a totally digital project come in very loud. I used very small bits of analogue and retained all the levels incorporated in the digital signal path. The feedback from the client was that was even clearer and the digitisation was gone, making it sound more human.

Editorial by Andrew Low

" as ,many of the Glasto' stages were using analogue consoles and my band The Gizzards were done on a 1970's Alice Stancoli quad mixer . And I dont care what anyone says you cannot beat the sound of drums and bass recorded to tape , no way ,no how.


Sound on Sound 2010 ;25th anniversary edition:

Craig Silvery ( Hot shot producer of the month )

"yes Im an analogue freak ," admits Silvey "There is a definaite sonic advantage that you can hear almost immediately when you use it. To my ears the difference between doing my mixes in Pro Tools and then bringing them out on the desk is atronomical . The summing is different .

 

Sarah Yule from TL Audio is a big fan of analogue and she did a really interesting article about compression in Audio Pro International
I also think its good to use some analogue compression as it seems to add some depth and warmth to the mix. I believe that using analog gear compared to digital is similar to the difference in cooking in a conventional oven or with a microwave - it just dosnt taste as good!


TLA AUDIO FAT TRACK advert - Audio Pro International,
With the analogue versus digital debate rages on, most people would agree that each format comes armed with its own unique benefits and the smart money is therefore spent on taking advantage of both . Whether a fan of digital or analogue , there has long been an attractive compromise between the two in the form of a DAW /analogue console combination.


AUDIENT LARGE FORMAT analogue consoles
Classic Anlogue Solutions... whilst adding the sound of the best large format console technology... summing in the analogue domain ensures NO reduction in resolution -making your bass fuller, cleaner and more coherent


SOS "ON TEST" the SPECK X summing box
A lot of summing amps seem, deliberately engineered to provide a slightly warm, "fat analogue" kind of quality ; the X sum does'nt do that! " Why?


TLA Audio Ivory series advert:
Hundreds of talented artists are already benefiting from the ability to maintain the great sound of analogue recordings while maintaining the flexibility that digital provides " (using the TLA Ivory box )... etc etc... elusive classic sound of the analogue era remains constantly at their finger tips.

and the TL Audio: Valve front end M4... seeking the more traditional, expansive big console sound, a sound simply not available using an "all digital " set up ... classic EQ (same as CP6800) ideal for high quality track laying and stereo mixdown the M4 also provides a tactile and ergonomic control surface...


Malcolm Toft of his ATB console:
Now you can achieve that "vintage console" sound from your recordings


Interview with Rupert Neve in Resolution magazine:
Does digital draw you or do you remain an analogue man?
For many years we've been told about wonderful digital quality. Its a wonderful medium certainly, for storing editing and delivering sound but resolution is greatly inferior to analogue - a bit like comparing film quality, where resolution is probably limited mainly by lens quality, with pixels where more is always better but expensive...


Also from the same Resolution June issue is an interview with producer Tom Elmhirs
I would never dream of mixing out of two outputs in Pro Tools, I like the physical bit of mixing ...I like pushing it, which you can't really do in a computer, I find you run out of headroom quite quickly!


Why do you need an analogue console anyway?

Please read this stuff from 'Sound on Sound' if you've got the time:
"I would advise bands to keep a third of their budget aside for mixing. The summing of the internal busses on a Digi 01 (and PC sound cards) for example, is done with algorithms and number crunching so naturally it's your biggest compromise when you're trying to fit 48 tracks onto two. The summing of a an analogue desk, even a cheap one, is greatly improved because it's using voltages rather than numbers"


Topaz Project user:
CHECKABLE FACT: Many People still want an analogue desk to track through or mixdown to, from the outputs on their DAW system soundcard. I have discovered (as many others have) that when I send digital recordings to the line -outputs out of my computer into individual channels on the TOPAZ, the whole mix develops spaciousness, individual sound separation and warmth/depth, significantly lacking when burning direct to CD from the DAW.


: Just been to Cube Studios near Newquay in Cornwall to service Gareth Jones's recently installed Soundtracs IL 36.
he said " Tim I've had the lot in here !! A+H , Mozart , Soundcraft and this In Line is the tops !!

: Gareth just bought a JADE 40 : it has been on his wishlist for 12 years !! Now he has fulfilled his dream

I might just add he runs a huge pro tools rig with a colour monitor the size of Essex but still chooses an Analogue console to Sum and Buss ................


Useful SOS Forum link about the whys n' whynots of buying an analogue console :


Typical Gearslutz posting :

What Mixer to get with Firewire?
Well, I decided that this is the next logical step. The Motu 828 just isn't cutting it. It's too dang noisey and sensitive. I was quite arrogant to think I could do it my way without a mixer, but once you start getting into outboard gear, things change. And I'm buying more and more outboard gear now.

I would like to get 8 stereo inputs and have Firewire to connect to my Macbook, but I'm afraid that's going to cost a bundle. Anyways, quality is important, but so is bang for buck. I'm kind of looking at a two edged sword there. I'm running Logic 7.2 if that helps. And I mainly do electronic music with Vocals, bass and guitar (as well as traditional instruments from sample libraries)

The way I have been working is a little wierd. I have been picking a certain 4 synths/instruments to plug into the Motu 828's inputs (4 stereo synths into 8 inputs). From there I would compose a song and if I needed to record a different synth's part, adding a 5th or 6th synth, then I'll unplug a couple of the others so I can use those inputs. SO I'd like to bypass this and find a mixer with 8 stereo inputs.

ANOTHER INSPIRING EMAIL from KAREL POST who has been using the SOUNDTRACS IN LINE 48 console

 

 

Yo Tim!

Well, about analog desks... Hmmmm

Don't think they are "Finished" YET!

Look at the Analogue synth world.

Even the cheapest of cheap analogue synth fetches several hundreds of euro's these days.
Not to mention the FLAGSHIP synthesizers like the Jupiter 8, fetching over 6000 Euro's these day's, a MemoryMoog running close to 10.000 Euro's and not to mention
vintage compressor / limiters! They are being cloned to death because there is so much money to be made.

Desks are for the connaisseur, the men with EARS, be ware that desks will sell again in 6+ years from now...

I hear more and more people complaining they "miss" something with their Pro-Tools mix.

The latest converters do not help DIGITAL either. Where DAC's of 2003 clearly outperform 2013 units, simply because the new ones have to be built "El Cheapo" and we know SMD caps sound a lot crappier then classic full sized capacitors....

Desks that are taken care for and maintained properly will hold value and in the future will rise in value, because people will get bored with the "new DAW that offers even more things you don't need"... :-)

I run a computer mix too, sure, but only to mix "same type" sounds like vocals into a stereo stream. My synths are analog and stay analog till the end.
In my studio, turning the DAW off will only kill the vocals, ALL music is put through and mixed on the desk!

Mixing Analog is like cooking on a stove, gently heating and blending under more influences then just the sum in weight and colour.
Analog mixing means pushing and pulling of voltages and amps in the desk, in a perfectly natural manner, like an organic animal. (that's my theory at least)

Digital is just adding volt value with another at one specific time only, without raise times and analog slopes, like cooking without the fire, just every ingredient into a big pan at the same time..... Perfect mathematically, but completely tasteless... Always sounding VIRTUAL, NOT REAL


Keep up the work Tim!

You're NEEDED for the MUSIC's sake.

Best regards,
Karel

 

 

 

 

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